FrOg On-Line #2000-02



Welcome to FrOg On-Line #2000-02, Tuesday, February 29, 2000.


CONTENTS
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1. Introduction
2. Trotter Dump Questions
3. The Glowing Future
4. Internet FrOg On-Line Archive
5. Follow-Up: New Fluorescence?
6. "Subscriber" List


1. Introduction
===============

Greetings!  I hope that throughout this day, Leap Day, 2000, you are leaping
with joy in your heart.

This issue features a few interesting questions, and the announcement of an
Internet FrOg On-Line Archive.


2. Trotter Dump Questions
=========================

I received the below e-mail questions from Dave Slaymaker.  He asks some good,
interesting questions.  Please e-mail your answers, opinions, advice,
discussion, etc. to the moderator for inclusion in the next FrOg On-Line.

  Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:29:43 -0800 (PST)
  From: David Slaymaker <dh10000@yahoo.com>
  Subject: RE: Purple Passion?

  Hi Bill,  

  [...]

  Of course I have another question for you... it's about trotter again.  But
  this time about the dump itself.  I'm clear on the insurance now!

  What's the story on the Trotter dump?  History, abundance of nice specimens,
  etc.  [...]

  Thanks as always,
  and best wishes,

  Dave

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  Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:14:22 -0800 (PST)
  From: David Slaymaker <dh10000@yahoo.com>
  Subject: Re: Trotter.

  Hi Bill,

  [...]

  You mentioned trading at the show.  How willing are most people to trade?
  [...]  What are the "etiquettes" of trading at shows?  I am totally ignorant
  and don't want insult someone, or get totally takin'!  Any advice on that?   

  [...]

  Talk to you soon.

  Sincerely,
  Dave


3. The Glowing Future
=====================

The information in this section comes from the Franklin Mineral Museum web
site (viewed Friday, February 25), the September 1999 Franklin Mineral Museum
Newsletter, the Fall/Winter 1999 Sterling Hill Newsletter, the flyer for the
NJESA Show, and Doug Mitchell's FMS Online, and December e-mail from Dick
Bostwick.

Saturday, March 18, 2000:
  FOMS Micro Group, 10am to noon, Franklin Mineral Museum.
  FOMS meeting, 1:30pm to 3:30pm, Franklin Mineral Museum.  The speaker will be
    Mark Zdepski; his talk is titled "Mining Methods in New Jersey".

Saturday, April 15, 2000:
  FOMS field trip, 9am to noon, Buckwheat Dump, Franklin Mineral Museum.
  FOMS Micro Group, 10am to noon, Franklin Mineral Museum.
  FOMS meeting, 1:30pm to 3:30pm, Franklin Mineral Museum.  The speaker will be
    Geoffrey Notkin; his talk is titled "The Crater at the Edge of the World",
    a visit to the 70 mile wide Popigai meteorite crater in northern Siberia.
  Mine Run Dump night collecting, 6:30pm to 9pm, Sterling Hill Mining Museum
    foundation members only.

Saturday, April 29, 2000:
  "Pond" (outdoor swap and sell), 7:30am to 6pm, Robert E. Littell Community
    Center and Hardyston Township School.
  NJESA Show, 9am to 5:30pm, Robert E. Littell Community Center and Hardyston
    Township School.
  Banquet and auction: GeoTech Center, Sterling Hill Mining Museum -
    silent auction, 5:30pm to 7:30pm.
    social hour, 5:30pm to 6:30pm and all-you-can-eat buffet, 6:30pm to 7:30pm,
      tickets are $13.50 per person.
    live auction starts at 7:45pm.
  Trotter Dump collecting, 9am to 7pm, fee is $20 + $1/pound.  The $20
    fee covers night collecting also.
  Trotter Dump night collecting, 7:30pm to 11pm, fee is $20 + $2/pound.

Sunday, April 30, 2000:
  "Pond" (outdoor swap and sell), 9am to 5pm, Robert E. Littell Community
    Center and Hardyston Township School.
  NJESA Show, 10am to 5pm, Robert E. Littell Community Center and Hardyston
    Township School.
  Mine Run Dump collecting, 9am to 3pm, Sterling Hill Mining Museum, fee is
    $10 + $1/pound after the first 10 pounds.

Sunday, May 07:
  Annual Volunteer Appreciation and Miners Day Tribute, 1:30pm, Franklin
    Mineral Museum.

Saturday, May 20, 2000:
  FOMS field trip, 8am to noon, Passaic and Noble Pits, $10 + $1/pound after
    the first 10 pounds.
  Passaic and Noble Pit collecting, 8am to 3pm, Sterling Hill Mining
    Museum foundation members only.
  FOMS Micro Group, 10am to noon, GeoTech Center, Sterling Hill Mining Museum.
  FOMS meeting, 1:30pm to 3:30pm, Franklin Mineral Museum.  The speaker will be
    Bernard Kozykowski; his talk is titled "Memories of Franklin and
    Ogdensburg".

Sunday, May 21:
  FOMS field trip, 9am to 3pm, Lime Crest Quarry, Sparta, NJ.

Saturday, June 03:
  Spring Night Dig and Mineral Sale, 8pm to 11pm, Buckwheat Dump.

Saturday, June 17:
  FOMS field trip, 9am to noon, Franklin Quarry.
  FOMS meeting, 1:30pm to 3:30pm, Franklin Mineral Museum.  The speaker will be
    John Betts; his talk is titled "Review of Three Mineral Collecting
    Localities at Anthony's Nose on the Hudson River Near the Bear Mountain
    Ridge".

Saturday, September 23:
  "Pond" (outdoor swap and sell), 6:30am to 6pm, Franklin Elementary School.
  Franklin Show, 9am to 6pm, Franklin Elementary School.

Sunday, September 24:
  "Pond" (outdoor swap and sell), 8am to 5pm, Franklin Elementary School.
  Franklin Show, 10am to 5pm, Franklin Elementary School.

Saturday, Novenber 04:
  Fall Night Dig and Mineral Sale, 7pm to 10pm, Buckwheat Dump.

Sterling Hill Mining Museum
  closed thru February 29 except by special appointment.
  March: open weekends 10am to 5pm, tour at 1pm, weather permitting.
         open weekdays for group tours by appointment.
  April: open seven days a week 10am to 5pm.
         weekday tours at 1pm.
         weekend tours at 11am, 1pm, and 3pm.

Franklin Mineral Museum
  closed thru March 03.
  March: open weekends 10am to 4pm, collecting available weather
           permitting.
         weekdays by appointment.
  April thru November: open daily 11am to 4:30pm.
  Sunday, April 23, 2000 (Easter): closed.
  Thursday, November 23, 2000 (Thanksgiving): closed.


4. Internet FrOg On-Line Archive
================================

An archive of FrOg On-Lines has been created on the World Wide Web.  It
contains all FrOg On-Lines except the first one of 1998, and this one.  This
one will be added within the next few days.  The 1998 FrOg On-Lines were
provided by Herb Yeates; the last three 1999 FrOg On-Lines and the first 2000
FrOg On-Line were provided by Dave Slaymaker; Chris Thorsten is hosting the
archive within his personal web site.

There are plenty of ways to access the FrOg On-Line Archive.  Here are three:
A. With your browser, go to "http://members.xoom.com/njminerals".  Your browser
   will load Chris's home page.  In the lower part of the page is a link to the
   FrOg On-Line Archive.  Click on the link.  Your browser will load the index
   page to the archive.
B. With your browser, go to "http://members.xoom.com/njminerals/index.html".
   Your browser will load Chris's home page.  In the lower part of the page is
   a link to the FrOg On-Line Archive.  Click on the link.  Your browser will
   load the index page to the archive.
C. With your browser, go to "http://members.xoom.com/njminerals/FOINDEX.HTM".
   Your browser will load the index page to the archive.
Once the index page for the archive is loaded, click on the FrOg On-Line you
want to view, and your browser will load it.  The FrOg On-Lines are grouped by
year, and arranged chronologically within each year.

If you want or need a past FrOg On-Line, and you are not realistically able to
surf the web, e-mail me your request, and I'll try to get it to you.

A few requests: The first 1998 FrOg On-Line is missing.  If anyone still has
it, please e-mail it to me.  If you have it in hardcopy form only, please mail
it to me at the following address:
     Bill Mattison
     734 Clopper Rd., Apt. #23
     Gaithersburg, MD.  20878
I'll type it in all over again if that's what it takes to restore it.  Second,
the versions of FrOg On-Lines 1999-01 and 1999-01a in the archive are slightly
revised from the original.  I'd like to restore the originals to the archive.
If anyone still has FrOg On-Line #'s 1999-01 or 1999-01a, please forward the
original message to me with the original message header (I need the date it was
sent, too, and I can get that from the message header).  If your name is not
in the subscriber list at the end of the FrOg On-Line, then you do *not* have
an original version of that FrOg On-Line; do not send it to me.

My thanks to Chris, Dave, and Herb for their in putting together the archive.


5. Follow-Up: New Fluorescence?
===============================

In the last FrOg On-Line of 1999, a fluorescent Quartz was reported.  This
should be considered uncertain, not fact.  There is no real doubt the optically
analyzed grain came from the reddish violet fluorescing layer of the specimen,
and there is no real doubt the analyzed grain is Quartz.  But the reddish
violet fluorescing layer contained at least three different minerals, only one
(the matrix) of which was fluorescent.  It is not known whether the analyzed
grain was fluorescent or not.  At least four people (myself, Dick Bostwick,
Earl Verbeek, and John Cianciulli) are skeptical that the reddish violet
fluorescing mineral is Quartz.  One of the non-fluorescent minerals in the
reddish-violet fluorescing layer occurs as numerous tiny (many sub-millimeter)
grains peppered (scattered randomly) throughout the matrix.  In normal
lighting, these grains look like Quartz.  It is my suspicion that it was one of
these tiny non-fluorescent grains that was analyzed.  More work needs to be
done, and it is hoped it will be done in the near future.


6. "Subscriber" List
====================

NJ   Larry Berger        lberger@interactive.net
NC   Alan Borg           aborg@brinet.com
NY   Dick Bostwick       rbostwick@worldnet.att.net
NJ   Mark Boyer          mboyer@pace2001.com
CA   Kevin Brady         kbrady@cslanet.cals
PA   Bob Carnein         ccarnein@eagle.lhup.edu
VA   Peter Chin          Peter.Chin@USPTO.GOV
NJ   John Cianciulli     rockman@warwick.net
NJ   John Corsello       corsello@bellatlantic.net
NY   Howie Green         Royal3310@aol.com
MD   Gary Grenier        william.grenier@mercantile.net
MN   Tim Hanson          tim@ens.net
NY   Tema Hecht          thecht@worldnet.att.net
CA   Andy Honig          andym@lightspeed.net
CA   Mark Isaacs         isaacsmark@hotmail.com
     John Jaszczak       jaszczak@mtu.edu
NY   Carl Kanoff         MCDKan@clarityconnect.com
NJ   Steve Kuitems       skuitems@eclipse.net
FL   Roy Lambert         rlambert@ufl.edu
     Jay Lininger        matrix@redrose.net
PA   Mike Logan          mikelogan@sprintmail.com
MD   Bill Mattison       mattison@thunder.nws.noaa.gov
CA   Dan McHugh          dmchugh@eee.org
VA   Curt Michanczyk     CurtMich@aol.com
CA   Doug Mitchell       DMitchell@compuserve.com
CO   Pete Modreski       pmodresk@usgs.gov
WA   Don Newsome         uvsystems@aol.com
NJ   Jeff Osowski        jvotmo@blast.net
AZ   George Polman       polmans@compuserve.com
NJ   Nathan Schachtman   nschacht@voicenet.com
NY   Paul Shizume        s1153fam@aol.com
NJ   Dave Slaymaker      dh10000@yahoo.com
CA   Jane Grover-Smith   ANGLESEA@webtv.net
CA   Kent Smith          kentnorwood@email.msn.com
NJ   Chris Thorsten      chris@atomic-pc.com
NJ   Jim Tozour          jtozour@home.com
NJ   Earl Verbeek        everbeek@nac.net
     Herb Yeates         herb@simplethinking.com             Japan
CA   Wayne Young         Wayney@us.ibm.com

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